Extended Footage Of “Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen”

HO-LEE-SHIT THAT WAS AWESOME!!!! I'm rediculously excited after seeing that (the college scene was meh but everything after that…….epic)

Robots turning on humanity and running amok in a city? How many times have we seen this tired old premise. I liked it the first time i saw it when it was called Short Circuit.

I agree with Jiz that this idea is kind of played, but we all knew it was coming. I need not remind you that this film grossed more than 70 million in its opening weekend and more than 708 million worldwide. Hollywood would be stupid not to make another, its almost a guarantee box-office hit, regardless of what Michael Bay does with it. With that said I disagree with Rab's point that there's a need for a comedy-action combo. And the fact that it's a staple found in all his films is debatable considering his film choices is in the past few years.Texas Chainsaw Massacre (twice), Amityville Horror, The unborn, Friday the 13th, The Island…. It's been a while since The Rock and Pearl Harbor, he's clearly making a move to find a darker image. Transformers could be Bay's chance to re-invent himself and make this more than just an action film.

Haha, nicely said Rabs, I understand your point. You obviously know more on the logistics of movie making than I do. But in response, I think that in order for Michael Bay to make this more of a dark film he doesn't need that "staple" of a comedic-action combo. I think your right in that he may have been influenced by the "TDK effect", and that is the right way to go in order to make this a darker film. I just don't think people are going to freak out when that "staple" is transparent in this movie. Its been almost ten years since the Rock and Pearl Harbor, times have definitly changed in Hollywood, especially they ways in which movies are made and written. And I feel the direction in which Hollywood is progressing is that of a more realistic image. TDK is obviously a great example in that the characters were so incredibly real, and the idea of batman was actually plausible. If Bay really wants to hit a home run he won't make this funny at all. Not to to mention the relationship between LaBeouf and his transformer in the first film was not that comedic at all so there is no need for Bay to add it anyway.

The films I'm referring to that have the comedy/action combined elements are ones that you listed: The Rock, Pearl Harbor…also: Bad Boys 1 & 2, Armageddon, etc. Those are all hardcore action films, but all have Bay's staple comedic relief. I'm not saying it's a need from my standpoint, but it's clearly his style as a flimmaker, which has created certain expectations that will upheld because they've proven to be successful, therefore probably mandated by the studio, whether he wants them there or not. And the horror films that you listed Bay only PRODUCED, but did not necessarily have significant influence on the script or direction, which is the role of a producer; overseeing the production. Michael Bay is a brand name, so because those films were processed through his production company, allows the studios to put his name on it like a stamp of credibility. So people then say, " oh Michael Bay has something to do with Texas Chainsaw Massacre?…well then it must be crazy." When in reality, his creative influence is not as integral as you might think.

Damon you bring up a great point. Hollywood is obviously moving towards a darker, grittier, "Things aren't always black or white" mentality. I would like to propose a question: Why? Could it be the hightened attention in the media and around the world on terrorism as a means to fight for freedom? Or maybe the idea that humanity has become so desensitized by events in their environments that we all have a lil sociopathic tendencies? Just curious… reply if ya'd like other wise i'll ponder it on my own.

I personally think movies are heading the darker direction because it is what people want. Its what people want because it is more realistic than older films of the same genre. Also, if they didnt do that, there would not be any new direction of films and therefore, new films would the boring same old deal. As for my thoughts on the comedic aspect of Transformers 2. I love that Michael Bay mixes in little comedic lines because again, its more realistic to these specific movies. Because unlike the dark knight, Sam Witwicky and his family are just a normal family that is realistically funny and weird. And you cant tell me you didnt laugh during TDK at parts like the Joker's card saying "Will the REAL batman please stand up!" So, if the new transformers calls for comedy parts like Sam at college, so be it…it works…if it does not fit in the storyline, its ok.

Well I would agree with your claim about how were being desensitized by events in our environment. We do not live in a pretty world, you can't turn on the T.V without hearing about the war overs seas, a natural disaster, the fight over our rapidly depleting natural resources or our terrible economy, which has now poisoned the rest of the world. You have to admit things seem a bit crazy, nothing seems normal anymore. Our lives have become so complicated and fast paced from this onslaught of information technology that I feel like I'm suffocating. I mean I'm in contact with like 40 people a day, and can reach anyone I know with two things, my phone and computer. And those have become so common place that 8 year old's have more of a social life than their parents. Everyone's lives have been transformed by technology that we are helpless without it, its like we've lost a loved one when we can't find our phone for 5 min or our computer won't turn on. We have been consumed by material things that keep us in contact with everyone and anyone we know. I guess when it comes down to it we are addicted to the power that comes with these gadgets and it gives us the sense that we can ultimately control our lives, but that is never the case. So what does this have to do with movies? It means we are heroine addicts for anything that creates that sense of reality. It means we want to see movies that create that idea of control but in the end are never what the seem. TDK is a great example, the Joker is more than just the "bad guy", and as the film progresses he becomes something that is pure evil, his controlled chaos creates that sense of pure freedom and power. Batman you would think is the hero, but in the end becomes the villain to create a sense of hope in Gotham. Both of these ideas look simple but underneath are extremely complex and don't really make any logical sense, so in the end its as real as it gets.